So the angels who had been sent to hurt the earth, were told to wait until all of God’s servants were sealed. That is still going on! It has not finished yet. It began on the Day of Pentecost and is still going on. Until the very last person who will be sealed is sealed, this will continue. How foolish the doctrines of men are! They try to set this to only a small amount of people, and to fit it all into the last seven years of the church. Foolishness, foolishness!
After the first fruits of this outpouring were sealed, then they brought in the great number from all nations, as they spread the gospel to the entire earth. It is still going on. They came out of great tribulation, because the people of God have always had tribulation. Read how the early Christians were persecuted and tortured and killed, if you doubt this! Be not ignorant, but come to understand the TRUTH. Their white robes shows they are filled with righteousness!
Well, it seems I can’t help but get into these seals. It seems impossible to teach on the thunders without getting into the seals also. Probably will have to get into the trumpets, also, as all of this connects together.
The Third Thunder:
Re 8:1 And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour. Re 8:2 And I saw the seven angels which stood before God; and to them were given seven trumpets. Re 8:3 And another angel came and stood at the altar, having a golden censer; and there was given unto him much incense, that he should offer it with the prayers of all saints upon the golden altar which was before the throne. Re 8:4 And the smoke of the incense, which came with the prayers of the saints, ascended up before God out of the angel’s hand. Re 8:5 And the angel took the censer, and filled it with fire of the altar, and cast it into the earth: and there were voices, and thunderings, and lightnings, and an earthquake.
The thunders are always accompanied with the VOICES, LIGHTNINGS AND EARTHQUAKES. These always go together. Neither one is the NATURAL events, out in the natural weather. This is totally spiritual language. Each of these are fully explained in Scripture. If you would take the time to study these things, you could easily come to understand them. The VOICES are the Witnesses as they preach/teach the Word of God, which is given out in the THUNDER.
Now we see that seven angels were equipped with trumpets with which to bring the wrath of the Lamb on this earth. But just as the angels which were told to hurt the earth and sea were told to wait until God sealed his saints with the Holy Ghost, so now, these angels wait until another great movement of God is accomplished. And just what is that? It is something which I had never seen here before, until last night, as I could not sleep and God began to reveal this to me. I rose up at 1:00am and began reading this. I saw this:
Verse five is the outpouring of the Baptism of fire! Yes, that is what is happening here. God revealed it. Re 8:5 And the angel took the censer, and filled it with fire of the altar, and cast it into the earth: and there were voices, and thunderings, and lightnings, and an earthquake.
See it is the same as with the angels before the seal was given. They wait until God performs this matter of equipping someone for the next move of God, which is to pour out the wrath of the Lamb! In order to do that, they must receive the Baptism of Fire. The Fire spirit from God is for destruction. The Holy Ghost spirit is to save men. But now that the time of saving them is over, as shown by the SILENCE in Heaven, it is now time to bring the wrath upon all who have rejected the Grace salvation of God. So see then that the angel took the censer and filled it with FIRE of the altar, and cast it into the earth. THEN there were VOICES, THUNDERINGS AND LIGHTNINGS AND AN EARTHQUAKE.
This shows that another great fearful move of God has begun. The Earthquake shows their fear. This shows God shaking the world. It is not natural earthquakes. It is spiritual earthquakes. God said, I will not only shake the earth, but heaven and earth. Everything which cannot be shaken shall remain. So these ‘earthquakes’ try this world. It is the storms descending upon your ‘house’ which you built. The thundering is the mighty voice of God, as he sends out the witnesses with this spirit of Fire. Their voices will bring this wrath of the Lamb upon this world. The lightnings are the illumination which comes with this message from God. The angels are at work in the spirit world as all of this is happening. They bring the lightning.
The trumpets then begin to sound. Under each message or speaking from God, a judgment is poured out upon this earth. This is fulfilling Psalm 149, as the saints of God pour out the wrath. The hail is their words, which God said he had reserved unto this day of wrath. They are speaking these plagues into existence. Notice that they are working with FIRE all through these trumpets. Notice also, that it is with the third part of everything. If you read chapter eleven you will see this ministry explained more fully. It is those witnesses of God, with this baptism of fire, speaking FIRE out of their mouths, bringing these judgments. Fire proceeded out of their mouths, or those doing this speaking of these messages, and devoured their enemies. This honour have all his saints. Praise ye the LORD.
The old covenant, law, that group of idol worshippers, and the present whorish church are one and the same. They are the ones who reject and mock the wonderful things of God. But there comes a time when God is finished dealing with them, and then he sends destruction upon them. He turned from that old law nation to the NT Christian Church. That ‘tormented’ them and set off the evil murders of God’s saints. But see that God said to them: Isa 65:11 But ye are they that forsake the LORD, that forget my holy mountain, that prepare a table for that troop, and that furnish the drink offering unto that number. Isa 65:12 Therefore will I number you to the sword, and ye shall all bow down to the slaughter: because when I called, ye did not answer; when I spake, ye did not hear; but did evil before mine eyes, and did choose that wherein I delighted not. Isa 65:13 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, my servants shall eat, but ye shall be hungry: behold, my servants shall drink, but ye shall be thirsty: behold, my servants shall rejoice, but ye shall be ashamed: Isa 65:14 Behold, my servants shall sing for joy of heart, but ye shall cry for sorrow of heart, and shall howl for vexation of spirit.
Now see that the above is speaking the same thing as this thunder? It is showing how God became tired of these people rejecting the things He offered them, in order to serve their idols. So he sent his sword and slaughtered them. This ‘sword’ was spoken out of the mouth of his witnesses, even as I am now saying. This will go to someone and speak destruction to them. It happens all the time, and is not recognized by the world. But God’s Holy Word is always happening and being fulfilled.
See that he said, My servants shall EAT, but ye shall be HUNGRY. It is not speaking about natural food or hunger. It is speaking of being filled with the Words of Jesus or life. As we are given an abundance of revelation and glory, those who refuse are starved, spiritually. We drink, (his blood), but they are thirsty. We rejoice, but they are ashamed to rejoice in God. As we sing for joy, they cry for sorrow and howl for vexation of spirit.
But notice the rest of this: Isa 65:15 And ye shall leave your name for a curse unto my chosen: for the Lord GOD shall slay thee, and call his servants by another name:
See that God spoke here about slaying them and calling his servants by ANOTHER NAME. He did not mean he killed their body. He killed their spiritual part, for they had rejected HIM. So he now calls his servants CHRISTIANS, by the name of Jesus Christ. We no longer go by the name of ISRAEL OR JACOB. We go by the name of Jesus Christ.
He slew them from being his people.
As I explained in my message on the locusts, under the fifth trumpet, this is the ministry of these empowered Saints of God, as they bring the wrath of the Lamb. This ministry includes both men and women. They are fulfilling Joel 2 and Isaiah 13 and 33. It is the Day of the Lord. These are the people who obeyed the command of God to COME OUT OF HER, my people. We came out of that bottomless pit, into the kingdom of Christ. The smoke of the prayers of saints were offered up to God. Now we will bring about the blood, smoke and fire. It is the signs of this outpouring of the Baptism of fire. See that they hurt only the ones who have refused the seal of God, or the Holy Ghost. The people with the seal of God in their foreheads are safe from these plagues.
After this time is past, these same witnesses, now move into the next phase of their ministry and begin to destroy all who have refused to live for God, who refused the Holy Ghost. This is the second woe. All of this is still under that third thunder, which is also under that first thunder. It continues till the end. The tenth chapter of Revelation, is going back to telling about when Jesus came and took the book and ate it. The eleventh chapter is telling in detail, about the ministry of these witnesses with the baptism of fire.
Notice that these are the two candlesticks which stand before the God of the earth. They are explained in Zech 4. It is these two anointed churches of God, those with Peter, and those here at the end, who receive the Fire Baptism. We both engage in these ministries. That first church performed these things on that fallen OT group. We will perform these plagues on the fallen church of the Laodicians. It is the bottomless pit. The smoke of her torment will ascend up forever. This has been going on all the time. As each age of Christians live and die, they perform these ministries. It is not a one-time event. It is in motion all the time.
As those first witnesses, Peter, Paul, and the others of that day, finished their ministry, that old beast, which ascended out of that whore-pit, rose up and killed them. They then ‘lay’ dead in that old sinful ‘Jerusalem’. It has been going on since the Day of Pentecost. It even went on in the OT, as that evil whore killed all the prophets of God. It was not their literal, human bodies which lay out there dead. These things are fully spiritual. The Word of God is spiritual, not natural. It may speak about some natural things, but the speech itself is spiritual and must be spiritually discerned. So it is the ministry of these saints which lays dead. It happens through all the ages as Satan destroys the saints of God. He that was born after the flesh persecutes those born after the Spirit. That is what this is all about. They are this beast which ascends out of that bottomless pit. It is those who hold to a carnal mind, filled with all malice and hatred of God and his people.
Down through the dark ages, as those saints witnessed against that evil fake church, and thus tormented them. The wicked ones then rose up and killed them. Then they lay ‘dead’ in those old ‘streets’. Those people rejoiced over them and sent gifts to each other, at X-mess, celebrating the death of these ‘TWO Witnesses’. It has been going on all the time. This thing dates back thousands of years. It began with the murder of Abel. Jesus told us this.
See, as we speak the powerful TRUTH, as FIRE comes out of our mouths, speaking TRUTH, it actually TORMENTS those who love that old bottomless pit. Then they seek to destroy us in any way they can. They fight us on the internet. They do all kinds of evil against us, because we have that two-edged sword coming out of our mouths. We speak FIRE into their midst and it burns them. They then seek to kill us. After each age of ministers finish their ministry, they are then killed by that evil beast, from the pit.
But don’t make the mistake of thinking none of this has happened, yet. It has been going on since Cain killed Abel. It happened to Paul, Peter, James, John, Jesus. And so on. It will never stop until Jesus returns and stops all this violence off this earth. Hasten the Day, Lord God! Herod was part of that old beast who rose up out of that bottomless pit and he was killing the men of God. As they finished their testimony, that old beast killed them. It started with Stephen.
This is about all that I can post in one message, so I will now post it to our board. I am not finished with this message, so hope to do some more on it tomorrow. But since it is about as long now as they will let me post at one time, I will go ahead and post this, just in case someone passes by and wants to read this.
I may possibly make some changes. But right now, this first part looks finished to me.
I cannot finish this tonight. Must get some rest. Besides, I need to study on those other thunders before I write any more. Written Nov. 25, 2008