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This message is in answer the the message Coffeman wrote on contradictions in the KJV. He claimed there are contradictions between Acts 9:7 and Acts 22:9. So, In this message I show the truth of this matter and PROVE there is no contradiction in these verses.
~ Ears which hear not ~ By: Jo Smith *** May 29, 2006
One of the reasons most people do not and cannot understand God’s Word is because they are strictly carnal minded. The carnal mind is not subject to the things of God, indeed cannot be. So when you see people who claim the Word of God is full of contradictions, rest assured that it is the person who is in error and not God’s Word.
Now we have those who claim that between Acts 9: 7 and Acts 22: 9, there is a contradiction. Let’s just examine this in LIGHT of God’s Word, and not from their darkened carnal mind.
First, know that in the Scriptures there are more than one kind of ‘hearing’. One hearing is when someone is deaf naturally. The other is when the person is deaf spiritually. There are two different kinds of ‘hearing’ and ‘seeing’ in Scripture.
Let’s lay a foundation for this teaching: Luke 8:10 And he said, Unto you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God: but to others in parables; that seeing they might not see, and hearing they might not understand.
Now see that Jesus told them there are some who see but do not see. Contradiction? Of course not. It is spiritual talk. He said there are some who hear but do not understand. So, he proved right there that UNDERSTANDING was the kind of hearing he means. A person can certainly ‘hear’ sounds, such as if one says to you, go over there. You heard those sounds which make up the English words, Go over there. But did you UNDERSTAND what was meant? No. You do not understand where over there is. So it means actually nothing to you.
Matt. 13:13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.
13:14 And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:
13:15 For this people’s heart is waxed gross, and [their] ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with [their] eyes, and hear with [their] ears, and should understand with [their] heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.
13:16 But blessed [are] your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear.
Now in the above Verses, Jesus fully explains this principal of hearing but not understanding and seeing but not really seeing (perceiving or understanding). He said their ears are dull of hearing. Is he saying they cannot hear sounds? NO. This is not what he meant. He meant they are carnal minded and cannot HEAR spiritually, or understand truth.
Then Jesus said blessed are your eyes, for they SEE; and your ears, for they HEAR.
So, who are the blessed? They are the ones to whom God giveth understanding of the Word. These blessed ones can understand things spiritually. This is the kind of hearing and seeing we are dealing with in Scripture.
He said they hear, but do not hear. They see, but do not see. Contradiction? Only to those who have ears which do not hear and eyes which cannot see. These are the people who claim there are contradictions in God’s Word, the KJV. They think this because they can only read with a carnal mind. They cannot hear truth. They cannot see truth. So to them it is lies. But it is their own darkened mind which they are hearing.
Now for more proof that Scriptural hearing is understanding: Luke 2:43 And when they had fulfilled the days, as they returned, the child Jesus tarried behind in Jerusalem; and Joseph and his mother knew not [of it].
2:44 But they, supposing him to have been in the company, went a day’s journey; and they sought him among [their] kinsfolk and acquaintance.
2:45 And when they found him not, they turned back again to Jerusalem, seeking him.
2:46 And it came to pass, that after three days they found him in the temple, sitting in the midst of the doctors, both hearing them, and asking them questions.
2:47 And all that heard him were astonished at his understanding and answers.
Now the above is not telling us that Jesus could hear sounds. It is saying he understood what the doctors were saying. They were astonished at his UNDERSTANDING, not the fact that his natural ears could ‘hear’ sounds!
People, quit being babies in your own understanding. Grow up! Ask God to give you a spiritual mind so you can understand truth. Your soul depends on knowing and loving truth.
Acts 28:25 And when they agreed not among themselves, they departed, after that Paul had spoken one word, Well spake the Holy Ghost by Esaias the prophet unto our fathers,
28:26 Saying, Go unto this people, and say, Hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and not perceive:
28:27 For the heart of this people is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes have they closed; lest they should see with [their] eyes, and hear with [their] ears, and understand with [their] heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.
28:28 Be it known therefore unto you, that the salvation of God is sent unto the Gentiles, and [that] they will hear it.
Now don’t you see that Paul taught the very same thing here? He said those Jews could ‘hear’ sounds, but could not HEAR. This meant they could not understand Spiritual things. They were strictly carnal minded. Then he said the gospel would be sent to the Gentiles and they would ‘HEAR’ it. This meant that the Gentiles would be able to HEAR spiritual, or understand.
Luke 14:35 It is neither fit for the land, nor yet for the dunghill; [but] men cast it out. He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.
Now is that saying if you have natural ears to let yourself hear sounds? Of course not. He is saying if you have ears, listen and HEAR spiritual truth. This hearing means to understand. It does not mean to catch sounds on your eardrums. (I must spell this out for the ignorant, who have ears which are dull of hearing.)
Rev. 1:3 Blessed [is] he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time [is] at hand.
Now that verse is telling that it is blessed if one can hear, or understand, the words of this prophecy. It does not mean if you can catch the sound when someone reads it out loud to you.
Rev. 13:9 If any man have an ear, let him hear.
Now if one has a natural ear, does he have to be told to hear with it? No. He is telling us to understand the things one reads in the Word. It is saying if you have a spiritual mind, then you can ‘hear’ or understand these things. If you cannot understand, then it proves you have a carnal mind, which is not subject to the things of God.
Now with this good foundation laid, let us look at the supposedly ‘contradiction’ In Acts 9:7 and Acts 22:9.
Acts 9:1 And Saul, yet breathing out threatenings and slaughter against the disciples of the Lord, went unto the high priest,
9:2 And desired of him letters to Damascus to the synagogues, that if he found any of this way, whether they were men or women, he might bring them bound unto Jerusalem.
9:3 And as he journeyed, he came near Damascus: and suddenly there shined round about him a light from heaven:
9:4 And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?
9:5 And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: [it is] hard for thee to kick against the pricks.
9:6 And he trembling and astonished said, Lord, what wilt thou have me to do? And the Lord [said] unto him, Arise, and go into the city, and it shall be told thee what thou must do.
9:7 And the men which journeyed with him stood speechless, hearing a voice, but seeing no man.
Acts 22:6 And it came to pass, that, as I made my journey, and was come nigh unto Damascus about noon, suddenly there shone from heaven a great light round about me.
22:7 And I fell unto the ground, and heard a voice saying unto me, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?
22:8 And I answered, Who art thou, Lord? And he said unto me, I am Jesus of Nazareth, whom thou persecutest.
22:9 And they that were with me saw indeed the light, and were afraid; but they heard not the voice of him that spake to me.
Now I have shown without a doubt that some hearing is on the natural eardrums, and other times God is speaking of understanding spiritual things. So that is all which is involved here. Those men with Paul heard sounds on their eardrums. They saw light with their natural eyes. But they did not understand a thing which was going on there in the spiritual realm.
Their natural ear drums caught sound, but they did not ‘HEAR’, or understand the voice which talked with Paul. Only Paul had this understanding. Only Paul was catching the spiritual truth being revealed here. Only the spiritual minded will understand this message. The darkened, carnal minds, seeking to disprove God’s Word, will go on in their darkness of night, spiritually. They will not come to God, Light, Truth, that they might understand, or hear with their spiritual ears, and see with spiritual eyes, so they can be healed and saved.
See, that it said they heard a voice, but then Paul said they heard not the voice of him that spoke to Paul. They actually heard sounds, but they did not hear the voice speaking to Paul. This was in the spirit. They did not ‘hear’ Jesus’ voice speaking to Paul, even though they did heard the sound of voice. They heard not with understanding what Jesus was saying. This was spoken only to Paul. Jesus can speak right to me, in the midst of others, being present, and they will not hear it. It is in the spirit.
So, all I can say to the one who rejoiced, set up !!!! Marks of excitement, thinking he had proven the KJV a lie, it is you are the liar. It is you who is deceived and in darkness, having ears which hear not and eyes which see not. It was only your own darkened mind which thought these things were contradictions. I have proven to anyone who can ‘hear’ that none of the things you mentioned were contradictions, but only misunderstanding on your part. He that hath ears, let him HEAR what the Spirit is saying. He that hath eyes, let him see.
Blessed are the eyes which see what ye see and the ears which HEAR what the Spirit says.
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