I Am My Father

From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551 (Original Message) Sent: 9/17/2007 10:39 PM
I Am My Father

John 14:4 And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know.

Joh 14:5 Thomas saith unto him, Lord, we know not whither thou goest; and how can we know the way?

Joh 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Joh 14:7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.

Joh 14:8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us.

Joh 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?

Joh 14:10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.

Joh 14:11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works’ sake.

Joh 14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.

Joh 14:13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.

The false ‘Jesus-only’ doctrine rests heavily upon the MISINTERPRETATION of the above verses. If an interpretation is NOT written, just as spoken, and if it crosses other Scriptures, then know that the interpretation is FALSE. Truth cannot and does not contradict itself. All Scripture is the TRUTH of God. It is HIS word. Dare any of you call God a lie? Just because of your little lack of understanding?

So let’s examine the above in light of other Scripture. No man cometh unto the Father, but by me. Now they claim this means that Jesus is the Father. Then why didn’t he say so? Why did he say you can only come to the Father by himself? Is that sensible, to say you can only come to me by me?

If you had known me, ye should have known MY FATHER also. So, is it sensible to say, if you have known me, ye should have known me also? Do you really think this is what Jesus was saying? If you have known me, you should have known me also? Not hardly.

So then, seeing is understanding, right? Sure. If you have seen me, you have seen the Father also? (If you have seen me, you have seen me also???) So if someone asked me, show me your Mother…and because I do only the things my Mother does, I say, if you have seen me, you have seen my Mother also, because I do only what my Mother does……so in this, I have showed you, already, my Mother, by the very works I do and the words I say, for I only say what my Mother tells me to say….so when you hear me…you hear my Mother. But instead of this, Jesus is supposed to have said, if you have seen me you have really seen me, for I am me, or rather I am my own Father. ?? Huh? Is that how you really think Jesus talked? Sounds rather looney to me.

Phillip, I have only done the works of my Father and only said the words of my father, so how can you say, shew us the Father? I have already shown him to you by my works and words. Proof? Sure: John 14:10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works. Joh 14:11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works’ sake.

Don’t you believe that I am in the Father and the Father in me? (I am in me and me is in me also? Is that what you think Jesus said?)…No. He said God is a Spirit, and that Spirit of God is in me. He is telling me what to say, and I only say what he tells me to say. The words that I speak unto you, I speak not of my own thoughts, but the Father, which dwells in me, he does the works. Believe me. Do you believe Jesus? Believe me that I am in the father and the Father is in me, or else believe me for the very works’ sake.

If you cannot believe what I am saying, (Jesus speaking), then at least believe that the works I am doing is the works of my Father and the words I speak are my Father’s words. So I have already shown you my father. Now. (their version: I do not speak my own word, but I speak my words. I am in me and me is in me also. If you don’t believe this, then believe me, for I am in my self, and my self, is in me also.)

John 14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.

Now for the real bomb-shell… he that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also, and even greater works than these shall he do… so if the works prove that I am the Father, then shall you be the Father even more, for you can do the same works I am doing. So if I must be the Father to do this, then you will be even more-so the Father. And you can do greater works than this, because I am staying myself….means my father.

Did he say that? Nope. He said you shall do greater than these BECAUSE I GO UNTO MY FATHER. (but really, I am my father, so I do not have to go to my father. He is in me, so I do not have to go anywhere to go to myself. I am the Father. I am always with the Father…don’t have to go anywhere to be with myself.) that is how the world teaches John 14.

John 14:13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.

Ask in my name, and I will do it that I may be glorified in myself. HUH? Well, after all, self is the father of self? Right? According to the Jesus-only folks, this is the solid truth. And I am not changing a thing. This is just how it would have to read, if they are correct.

John 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him

(Now, [and remember, I am only saying this as Jesus would have had to say it, according to the Jesus-only doctrine], He that loves me, will be loved of me, and I will love him.)

John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him. Joh 14:24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father’s which sent me.

(If a man love me, he will keep my words, and I will love him and I [we] {see, he made a mistake here, by saying ‘we’ when he really means just me}, will come unto him and make my {our} {{same mistake again}}, (he thinks he is a plural being)), abode with him.

Now for the big lie! The word which ye hear is NOT MINE. Hear that? Jesus is telling one here, according to the ‘jesus-only doctrine’. He said the word is NOT MINE. Yet he is the only one whose it could be?? Not mine, but the Father’s which SENT ME. (No, he had to say, not mine, but really is mine, (see, I am just kidding ((Jesus)) but is mine because I sent myself.

John 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

(His words, according to them)…The Comforter, is really me, in disguise, and myself will send my self in my name, and myself will teach you all things, and bring it to your memory, all I said unto you).

And last of all: John 14:31 But that the world may know that I love the Father; and as the Father gave me commandment, even so I do. Arise, let us go hence.

(According to them…that the world may know that I love myself, and as myself gave myself commandment, even so I do.)

Now, I have not added a thing here, except exactly how it would have to read, if the Jesus-only doctrine were true. Did Jesus really speak that crazy? But the real proof is that it must not cross other Scriptures. Did they check this out? Not at all. Now don’t forget, Jesus told them, if you have seen me, you have seen my Father. And if you have known me, you should have known my Father also. From henceforth (this source) you have seen my Father.

So. (check it out)..

John 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. (You have seen God from me, this source, you have seen my Father. See, the son is in the bosom of his self and declares himself.)

1jo 4:12 No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us. 1jo 4:13 Hereby know we that we dwell in him, and he in us, because he hath given us of his Spirit. 1jo 4:14 And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world.

(Yes, you have seen God when you looked at me, for I am God, said Jesus? Right? According to millions of church folks, this is right. If we love one another, I dwell in us and my love is perfected in us. We know we dwell in him and he is us, because he hath given us himself. We have seen that the Father sent the Father to be the Saviour, or the Son sent the Son to be the Saviour, or I sent myself to be the Saviour?)

Well, well. So it does cross Scripture. Two different verses saying that no man hath seen God at any time. Yet Jesus said if you see me, you have seen HIM. It also says here that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world. It does not say the Son sent the son, or sent himself. It does not say the Father sent the Father or self.

Yet, in spite of all this solid proof, that they are misinterpreting John 14, they totally over-looked this and went right on in their false doctrine, teaching the world lies. In spite of all this proof, they had not considered that perhaps they are not seeing the real truth here. In spite of all this, an entire church is built upon this false, sand foundation of lies.

Do they really seek truth? Do they really care? Do they really love God?

By: Jo Smith … Sept. 17, 2007

Published by Tweety134

I love Jesus. And I only read the King James Scriptures.

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