Who is the Women in Genesis 3:15?

I just thought I would post my answer to this question that was on another board that I am on.

It is the CARM Board. 

Tweety134
I have studied Gen. 3:15 almost daily. And many discussions have come out of it and still continue to this day. The person being spoken about in Gen. 3:15 is EVE. Adam I suppose by the time EVE was speaking with the serpent, which by the way Adam was standing beside her when they ate of the forbidden fruit. Some questions should come to mind. Why did Adam not tell EVE to not eat the fruit? Let us go back to what GOD said to Adam BEFORE EVE was created.

Genesis 2:16 (KJV)
2:16 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
Genesis 2:17 (KJV)
2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

Now GOD told Adam not to “Eat” of the tree. And if you look at what EVE said to the serpent, you will read something different:

Genesis 3:3 (KJV)
3:3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.

Now my question to all of you is: Did GOD say what Eve said? NO! Eve was repeating what Adam had told her GOD said. Adam is the wicked one in the Bible.

Eve’s Seed in Gen. 3:15 was the prophecy of Jesus Christ. Eve did do something that was bad though. She added to GOD’s WORD. And she uttered the lie that Adam had told her.

Still think EVE was the bad one? Who is the wicked one in this verse talking about?

1 John 3:12 (KJV)
3:12 Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother’s righteous.

Why was Adam not deceived in the Garden? Why did he not stop EVE from taking of the fruit?
Please remember this verse:
Romans 5:12 (KJV)
5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

Adam is the only one that is being referred to in this verse. When will this world wake up and see that we have all been deceived into believing that EVE was the sinful one. And it was Adam that was the sinful one.

Eve repented of her sins and continued to glorify GOD.

Continue to read the WORD OF GOD daily. Seek and you shall find.

Blessings.
Tweety

Published by Tweety134

I love Jesus. And I only read the King James Scriptures.

7 thoughts on “Who is the Women in Genesis 3:15?

  1. Freeborn,This poster on Carm is really intresting… I will try to contact him/her when I go back on the board.Originally Posted by rlsmith Gen 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed.This is one of the most misunderstood verses in ALL of Scripture. IF we can’t understand the true meaning of Gen 3:15 then we might as well forget about trying,to understand much of the Bible. When God opened my eyes to this truth, I basically had to start over in my Bible Study.It should be obvious here, that THE WOMAN in Gen 3:15 is Eve,because she is the Mother of the human race. We can’t forget God’s sovereign command back in Gen 1:27 God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him;male and female created he them. And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply. Therefore the seed in Gen 3:15 can ONLY be human seed.Therefore, the serpent must refer to Adam, because no Angel can reproduce with any human being. This is a case of simple biological reproduction, as can be proved by Gen 4:1And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said,I have gotten a man from the LORD. And again she bar his brother abel.Therefore the seed in Gen 3;15 must refer to Cain and Abel. Then the enmity was manifested when Cain rose up in Gen 4;8 and slew his brother abel. Not only that, Eve herself defined the meaning of the word SEED in Gen 4:25And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew. So when Adam became wicked in Gen 3:1 God started to use the SERPENTAs a metaphor to describe the wicked behavior of Adam.Such a METAPHORIC connection can be easily seen if we go to Psalm 58:3 which says“The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies.Their poison is L—I—K—the poison of a serpent”.Christ also used this metaphor to describe the wicked behavior of the Pharisees in Mat 23:33 when he said “YE SERPENTS”. Despite all this clear evidence for the true meaning of the SERPENT, most Bible students today stillblindly assume that the SERPENT is SATAN, because they want to blame a fallen angel,for the source of evil in our world.But their case is destroyed by Jer 17:9 THE HEART is deceitful, above ALL THINGS,And desperately wicked. Who can know it?Paul recognized the wickedness of the Human Heart as he spoke in Rom 7:23O WRETCHED man that I am,Who shall deliver me from the body of this death? As long as the majority of Bible students continue to blame SATAN, the fallen angelFor the source of evil, in our world,the human race will continue to descend into further darkness and chaos.We should remember that the FEAR OF THE LORD, is the beginning of wisdom.Today it seems like the FEAR OF SATAN, has taken over many churches, with many DELIVERANCE ministries sprouting up to train people how to fight imaginary fallen angels.As long as the majority of Bible students expect our Creator to destroy this imaginary SATAN, through bible prophecy, the real evildoers will continue to flourish with no righteous opposition.We need to start to fight the real war as described by 1 peter 2:11 saying “Abstain from fleshly lusts which war against the soul”.Remember He that HUMBLES himself will be exalted.The most humble position that we can take, is one where MAN is the ONLY sinner in existence.As soon as any Angel of God is accused of sin, we are exalting ourselves to an UNGODLY position.I hope and pray that you will join me, in exposing this fallen angel myth,before it causes more pain and suffering to the human race.

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  2. So does that mean that you think that Rev 12:9 was fulfilled in the PAST?You can’t put Rev 12:9 in the PAST , and Rev 20:2 in the Future.You can’t have it both ways, because there is only a 1260 day time framefor ALL THE EVENTS in the Book of Revelation to take place.The Book of Revelation was written, to open the seals on the70th week of Daniel.Daniel was told to Seal the Great tribulation, which was the 70th week.Dan 12:4 “But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end:Dan 12:9 says “Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.In between Dan 12:4 and Dan 12:9, we have Dan 12:7, which describes the 1260 day Great tribulation,and the second half of the 70th week.Dan 12:7 “And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when He shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished“.Notice the great detail that God used, to give mankind the EXACT amount of time in Human History,for the end of the 70th week.it shall be for a time, times, and an half;a time = 360,times = 720half = 180———–total 1260simple mathematics right?66ad -70 ad is when the power of the holy people was scattered.This is irrefutable Human History.This is the exact amount of time spoken about inRevelation 12:6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.1260 days in Dan 12:7 and 1260 days in Rev 12:6.No rational person can argue with God’s perfect mathematics.Now there is no excuse for anyone to deny the fulfillmentof the second half of the 70th week.Anyone that denies the fulfillment of 70th week ,will have to face the wrath of the Almighty on judgment day,because he so clearly laid out HIS timetable, in excruciatingly great detail.Then, to close out the Revelation John was given his MOST IMPORTANT instruction,that no rational person can ignore.22:10 “Seal Not the sayings of the prophecy of this book:Anything that is not sealed, by definition, can not be put into the future.Anyone that takes away or disregards this literal command to Seal Not,is putting his soul at great risk of Rev 22:19 where God emphatically warns us as follows:“if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy,God shall take away his part out of the book of life“.I hope and pray that by now, everyone can see thenecessity to take God’s time statements in a literal manner.

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  3. This persons posts are very interesting… Originally Posted by rlsmith You can find Many false doctrines in the PAGAN Church of Constantine as you call it, but the Deity of Christ is irrefutable.This is the foundation in all of Scripture as most clearly can be seen in John 1:1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word with God, and the WORD was God.Who was the WORD in John 1:1?Beyond the shadow of a doubt it was the MESSIAH, The CHRIST, the MEDIATOR,the MOST HOLY, the PRINCE OF PEACE, the EVERLASTING FATHER, the LAMB of GOD, the ROSE of SHARON, the LILLY of the VALLEY, the LION of the TRIBE of JUDA,And the WORD became flesh and dwelt among us. John 1:14THE WORD had no beginning, like you presume.This might be the last warning you will ever get to avoid sucha blatant BLASPHEMY, against the DIVINE SON OF GOD.Colossians 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. For in H———————–I—————————–Mdwelleth A———————–L—————————–Lthe fulness of the Godhead bodily. Colossians 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all [things] he might have the preeminence. For it pleased the Father that in him should A———————–L—————————–Lfulness dwell;Do you still think He was just a Human being?Can any HUMAN BEING create all things?How dare you trample on the SINLESS blood that HE shed for you?On Judgment day you will not be able to point fingers at the Church of Constantine.That is not going to save your soul, like you think.Unless you believe in the DEITY of CHRIST, you cannot even claim to be a Christian because HE SAIDin John 8:24 For if ye believe not that I am HE, ye shall die in your sins.This is a matter of LIFE and Death, so I hope and pray, that you choose wisely. Amen.Amen.

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  4. 1 John 3:8 He that commiteth sin is of the devil for the devil sinneth from the beginning.Man is the only sinner in existence, therefore Adam is the devil, in 1 John 3:8ADAM was the Father of all sinners for Rom 5:12 saysBY ONE MAN sin entered into the world.MAN is the only creature who was given FREE WILLin Gen 2:15, not any ANGELIC BEING.It is impossible for any Angel of God, to ever commit any sin, because they are IMMORTAL.IMMORTAL means CANNOT DIE.Rom 6:23 says the wages of sin is DEATH.This makes it impossible for any angel of God to commit any sin whatsoever.I dare anyone, to provide me even 1 scripture, where God gave any of his angels, any FREE WILL whatsoever.

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  5. Freeborn,This person is absolutly amazing. Is this you? Gen 2:25 And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.You said ‘Eve does not have a name yet. Just woman. This is very important. Both were without sin.’Therefore, you admitted that there were only 2 people in the Garden, and that is the most important thing here.God did not put any ‘literal serpent’ into the garden. That is what you keep ignoring.You are still assuming this fact, which could never have happened.God made the Man and the woman to be helpmates, and they were the only ones who could communicate.God never gave the power of speech to any ‘literal serpent’, yet you keep acting like is an established fact. Show me your video evidence then, to prove any ‘literal serpent’can speak with any woman. Go ahead. I dare you to prove it.See how ridiculous your doctrine is.Until you show me the video of this, then none of what you say,can be trusted with any credibility whatsoever.You are making a fool out of yourself once again.Gen 3:1 says Now the serpent. The word ‘now’ means a change has taken place.Therefore someone from Gen 2:25 must have become ‘the serpent’.That proves it right there, beyond the shadow of a doubt that Adam must have become ‘the serpent’, because when he spokehis mouth was full of deadly poison.Prov 18:25 says Death and life are in the power of the tongue.Therefore this is where Death entered into the world.Innocent Adam became wicked, so ‘Now’ he became the serpent.So when Adam twisted God’s word, then he became ‘the serpent’.Adam put doubt what God said, when Adam said “Yea has God said?Adam questioned the word of God, so he refused to accept it.That is what made Adam wicked, and if you also question what God saidthen you can become a serpent.God said in Gen 1:26 ‘let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. Now certainly a serpent is a creeping thing. Right?Therefore it is impossible for any ‘literal serpent’to escape the dominion that God Sovereignly placed upon’ them'(mankind) in Gen 1:26.You are making a mockery of God’s Sovereign command, ‘let’, by insistingthat a creeping thing, could deceive the woman.It is therefore impossible for any ‘literal serpent’ todeceive the woman, anywhere in Gen 3.God never gave dominion to any ‘literal serpent’.Adam is the only creature that could have deceived the woman.because No ‘literal serpent’ was ever told,what trees he could eat from in the garden.Only Adam was told what trees he could eat from, not any ‘literal serpent’.Therefore, Adam must be the serpent, once again, because of what the serpent said.Dan, stop ignoring what the serpent actually said,because this itself proves that Adam is the serpent. Any first grader could figure this one out. This is simple logic that any rational person would agree with, Dan.So this puts you in the same category of Adam, because you are doubtingthe Word of God just like Adam did in Gen 3:1.Be honest with yourself for once Dan,God never told any ‘literal serpent’ what trees he could eat from. Did he?So how would any ‘literal serpent’ come to doubt God’s word in Gen 3:1.Therefore, you are accusing God of telling a a ‘literal serpent’, what trees he could eat from,yet you have no scripture where God ever told any ‘literal serpent’ what trees he could eat from. Did He?I dare you to show me chapter and verse for that one, Dan.Only Adam was told what trees he could eat from. Right?Therefore, Adam must be ‘the serpent’.You are in big trouble, Dan, so you better repent right now,before you store up more wrath against the living God, for your day of Judgment.If God punished Adam for twisting His word, then why do you thinkhe will let you go unpunished, for your wicked ‘literal serpent’ doctrine.A similar thing happened to Peter in the new testament after he doubted the Word of God, when he spoke to Christ saying”Be it far from thee, Lord, this shall not be unto thee.”.Then Christ turned to Peter and said “get thee behind me Satan”.Christ was talking to a human being, who had become his adversary,and this is why Christ used this word (Satan), to describe the wicked behavior of Peter.Then Christ also spoke to the wicked Pharisees in Mat 23:33 sayingYe serpents.Therefore, these words serpent and Satan can only refer to wicked human beings.From Gen through Rev, God uses the serpentto point to wicked human behavior.Another example of this is Isa 27:1, which saysIn that day the LORD with his sore and great and strong sword shall punish leviathan the piercing serpent, even leviathan that crooked serpent; and he shall slay the dragon that is in the sea.So leviathan, piercing serpent, dragonand crooked serpent are all just words, that describe wicked human beings.So do you still think,that God would punishany of these ‘literal’ creatures?And no Dan, God did not curse any metaphor, in Gen 3:15,but this metaphor was pointing to Adam.God was cursing a wicked human being called Adam.No literal serpent could possibly commit any knid of sin whatsoever.You are living in dreamland if you think that any ‘literal serpent’ can commit any kind of sin whatsoever.’Crawling on his belly’ is also metaphoric language that means being plagued with his carnal nature, that was born when Adam became ‘the serpent’. So God was simply using this metaphoric languageto describe the curses, being imposed upon Adam and all of his seed in the future.New we have to crawl on our belly, as we battle with our earthly lust.Peter warned us about this in 1 Pet 2:13 Abstain from fleshly lusts, which war against the soul”.We have to do our best to avoid eating from the dust of the earth,which is our earthly carnal nature.Otherwise, we cannot obtain our eternal place in God’s Kingdom.It doesn’t matter when the woman was calledeve, because they were both naked in Gen 2:25.Still there was only two helpmates, who could have communicated in the garden.So I hope and pray, that you will repent of this,carnal, wicked, literal, serpent doctrinebefore it is too late. Amen

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  6. It is crystal clear, that the one who LIED to Eve, is the one who DECEIVED HER.She said, the SERPENT beguiled (deceived) me.So who lied to her?why keep denying this truth?  there was no being in the garden, called a serpent.  It is an identifying term, not someone, or another ‘creature’.No snakes.  Lies of MAN.  No other creature, later made to become a snake.  All carnal junk stemming from the carnal mind of this SERPENT.Why did Jesus call Peter, Satan?Think on this.  He said, to Peter, BECAUSE YOU SAVOR THE THINGS THAT BE OF MAN.So now, if Satan is an angel,  (or a snake),  why did Jesus take this to the things of MAN?  Not sensible, if you think on this.Why did Jesus identify the Pharisees, as SERPENTS?  Was Jesus trying to deceive us?Who lied to Eve?  who deceived Eve?Why is Peter called, SATAN, because he savored the things that be of MAN?Rev. clearly calls that old serpent, the devil, satan, dragon. So put it together, instead of listening to man, who lies.  (to cover up the fact that man is satan.  that Adam is serpent, satan, devil, dragon).So if Adam lied to Eve, was not Adam deceiving Eve?   How can you continue to deny this?

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  7. Here is some more for you Freeborn:The mainstream group of believers is clueless, as to the true meaning of the word Satan.They think that the word ‘Satan’ means ‘fallen angel’. Right?You only ‘a—s—s——ume that the words Satan, devil, and, serpent, should be applied to fallen angels.You still have absolutely no such scripture,where any Heavenly Spirit being tempted any human beings.You still have absolutely no such scripture,where any Heavenly Spirit being was ever given any free will.You still have absolutely no such scripture,where any Heavenly Spirit being committed any sin whatsoever.The only person who was ever called ‘Satan’ was Peter inMatthew 16:23 But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan:thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, butT—–H—–O—–S—–ET—–H—–A—–TB——————EO——————FM——–E——–N.Peter was not following the will of any ‘Spirit being’ , in Mat 16:23 now was he?Christ said Peter was following the things that be ‘of men’, not of any ‘Spirit being’?That is not my opinion but an irrefutable fact of Holy Scripture.Therefore it is impossible to connect the word ‘Satan’ with any ‘Spirit being’, whatsoever.This is why so many bible students are deceived,and the ‘fear of the Lord’ is almost non existent.Most bible students fear ‘Satan’, because I have heard so many sermonstelling me to watch out for ‘the enemy Satan’.No matter what scripture is being read, they find a reason to bring up ‘Satan’.Why is that?I thought the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom.You have to decide who you are going to fear.God or Satan.If you give power to some imaginary fallen angel bogeyman,then you must fear him, because you can’t see him with your visible eyes.And if you believe ‘he'(Satan) exists, then you are into idolatry.God says over and over in scripture,Besides me there is none else.So I hope and pray that you will join with me in warningothers about this dangerous, wicked and idolatrous, fallen angel doctrine.The Future of Christianity is truly at stake her.The world will never improve, until we can get rid of this wicked and idolatrous, fallen angel doctrine.To further amplify the insane nature of this wicked and idolatrous, fallen angel doctrine, we can go to the first reference of ‘Satan’ in Scripture.1 Chronicles 21:1 And Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel.2 Samuel 24:1 And again the anger of the LORD was kindled against Israel, and he moved David against them to say, Go, number Israel and Judah.Both ‘Satan’ and the Lord, provoked David to number Israel.So according to the ‘fallen angel doctrine’ logic,The Lord is Satan, a fallen angel, because they think,that the word ‘Satan’ means ‘fallen angel’. Right?That is why Satan cannot be any kind of fallen angel,otherwise God would be a fallen angel himself.This proves that the word ‘Satan’ means adversary,because God became an adversary to David.Then you might ask who then is ‘the serpent’ in Gen 3?We’ll lets get the proper context for this life changing scripture.Genesis 2:25 And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.Genesis 3:1 says ‘now the serpent’.The only 2 choices we have for the serpent are:either the man or his wife.One of those 2 became ‘the serpent’, because it says ‘Now the serpent’.’the serpent’ came into existence right there in Gen 3;1.’the serpent’ was a unique being, all by itself.Therefore, ‘the serpent’, could not have been created by God.,because God created ‘all literal’ creatures in pairs, as ‘male and female’.God never created any beast of the field, as a unique entity,But he always created them in pairs, so that they could be fruitful and multiply.That is not my opinion, but a simple fact of scripture as found inGenesis 6:19 And of every living thing of all flesh, two of every sort, shalt thou bring into the ark, to keep them alive with thee; they shall be male and female.Therefore, it is impossible for ‘the serpent’ to be any kind of created being, because ‘the serpent’, was one of a kind.The only 2 choices we have for ‘the serpent’ is (the man or his wife). Right?Therefore, ‘the serpent’ must be Adam, because Adam is the only person in existence,who was ever told what trees he could eat from.This is not my opinion, my friend, but a scriptural fact according toGenesis 2:16 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.Adam is the only person, who could have possibly doubted in Gen3:1, which says “Yea has God said?”Adam is the only being who could have doubtedWhat God said, because God spoke only to Adam in Gen 1:26.This is a simple fact of Holy Scripture, not any opinion. Right?So Adam is the only one who could have spoken to the woman in Gen 3:1, not anyone else.God never told any ‘literal serpent’ what trees he could eat from.Therefore, it is a no-brainer that Adam became wicked in Gen 3:1, when he doubted the Word of God.That is what clearly made Adam wicked.Who else could have doubted what God said, if God only spoke to one person, telling him what trees he could eat from.No other person besides Adam was ever told in all of scripture what trees he could eat from.I dare anyone on planet earth, to show me anyone else besides A—–d—–a—–m,who was told by God what trees he could eat from?Come on people, I dare you to step up and answer this challenge.If you can’t,then you must immediately repentof this wicked fallen angel doctrine.Come on people, be honest with yourself, before it is too late.If you hear his voice, today , harden not your hearts. Amen.

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