wow, look at this glorious message by Larry, that I just found:
I know most of you will think I am belittling Jesus in this post. But to those that understand that I am in no way belittling Jesus,
but I am only showing the truth of the word. So to those of you that think I am, I am only turning over your apple cart So if you want to upright it, prove me wrong with scripture. That is the only way to prove a person wrong is wrong by the WORD of God. If there is one thing that I am sure of is that I have the truth of the WORD. I am in no way trying to lift myself up.
When was Jesus made perfect or perfected? I will answer this question later on.[/font]
[font=’SAN FRANCISCO’, ‘-APPLE-SYSTEM’, ‘SYSTEM-UI’, SANS-SERIF]Jesus was not perfected on the day he was born. Jesus was the son of man. Jesus was not God. There is no scripture that states
” he was God” so he was not perfected. Jesus did not come in the image of God and neither did mankind.
Jesus was made in the flesh as you and I are. He came in the form of dustman or clay. He came as a servant. A servant is not God.
All of these teaching going out that Jesus came in the flesh as God and was God is nothing but the manmade doctrine of lies. They can not take scripture and show me wrong. There is no scripture stating Jesus was God.[/font]
[font=’SAN FRANCISCO’, ‘-APPLE-SYSTEM’, ‘SYSTEM-UI’, SANS-SERIF]To prove Jesus came in the likeness of sinful man and a servant. Let scripture show us this. Now, remember this is not me saying this.
This is scripture. Romans 8:3King James Version (KJV)
3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for
sin, condemned sin in the flesh. ( see the word shows that Jesus came as the likeness sinful man. How much clearer can it be?)
Philippians- 2:7…..But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: (this
is showing that he came as a servant and the likeness of men. Again how much clearer can if be?
Jesus could have sinned but he did not. Jesus could have failed but he did not. He stayed obedience to the word.
Hebrews 5:8 Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered;
So Jesus was not made perfect or perfected when he was a servant or when he was in the likeness of sinful flesh So when was Jesus made perfect or perfection? So when did Jesus become a son of God?[/font]
[font=’SAN FRANCISCO’, ‘-APPLE-SYSTEM’, ‘SYSTEM-UI’, SANS-SERIF]One step forward. Luke 3:22 And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, (Jesus)and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.
Did the Holy Ghost make Jesus perfect or perfected? I say no. It did not make him perfected, it was only a start to his perfection. Without
the Holy Ghost, no man can be made perfect or perfected.
When Jesus was on the cross, he said John 19:30 [Full Chapter]
When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost. ( what was finished.)
Just saw this about gave up the ghost. He no longer needed the Holy Ghost. Also gave up means …to give into the hands (of another)
to give over into (one’s) power or use to deliver to one something to keep, use, take care of, manage. So this is also showing
1 Corinthians 15:24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. Whew, what a great revelation God has just given me.
So what was finished? His perfection.
If the Holy Ghost did not make him perfected, what did? How does one become as the image of God and perfected?
Luke 13:32 And he said unto them, Go ye, and tell that fox, Behold, I cast out devils, and I do cures to day and to morrow, and the third day I shall be perfected.
So what is the three days he is talking about?
We know that Jesus said John 2:19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
Here we see the three days spoken of again? But what are the three days? Matthew 12:40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale’s belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. ( heart of the earth is showing the grave)
This is showing the third day that Jesus was talking about that he was perfected. It is when he became the son of God. Coming forth from the grave being one with God and the image of God. Romans 1 And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead: ( So this is showing that he was perfected and it was finished when he came forth from the grave.
The same thing that Paul said in 2 Timothy 4…. 6 For I am now ready to be offered, and the time of my departure is at hand.
7 I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course, I have kept the faith: ( so Paul said the same as Jesus said: “it is finished.”[/font]
[font=’SAN FRANCISCO’, ‘-APPLE-SYSTEM’, ‘SYSTEM-UI’, SANS-SERIF]Perfected means to make perfect, complete
to carry through completely, to accomplish, finish, bring to an end
to complete (perfect)
add what is yet wanting in order to render a thing full
to be found perfect
to bring to the end (goal) proposed
to accomplish bring to a close or fulfilment by event of the prophecies of the scripture
So in all this, we see the perfection of Jesus in Luke 13:32 … the third day I shall be perfected.[/font]
[font=’SAN FRANCISCO’, ‘-APPLE-SYSTEM’, ‘SYSTEM-UI’, SANS-SERIF]I have been asked before am I perfect? No, but I am striving to be. I am not and will not be until I did just as Jesus.
Matthew 5:48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.( in the body of dust no one will ever be perfect.
This fleshly body and carnal mind is enmity against God. So perfection becomes as we come forth from the grave in the image of God.
The same way that Jesus did. We must finish the course. We only started the race when we received the Holy Ghost
Ephesians 4:13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:[/font]
By Larry Bray